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Steve

After reading “As it was in the Beginning”, I am honored to learn that they used our beacon from the truck to home in on NKP.

Some History follows.

 

I was always curious about that twin blade chopper, some how it did not appear to be combat ready, but was made to do so.

 

Those Air Rescue Crew members always did a great job, and what with that machine gun hanging out the back on bungee cords and with all those Pathet Lao over in Laos. We kept M-2s and M-14s in that communications van along with some termite and phosphorus demolition bombs.

 

I remember a few Sky Raiders coming in and landing there in NKP, one particularly had brass filings in the tank from a refuel job in Denang VN and he almost lost it and just made it in.

 

Thank you for an excellent web site it sure brings back some memories.

 

We had set up communications just before Air Rescue Unit arrived. There was no bunking buildings so we slept on site and traveled into town for food and baths.

 

Giant rice bugs and Cobra snakes were everywhere.

Thai Army guys liked to eat them, so all of us would go out at night and kill a few and have them for breakfast with rice., they were quite tasty.

Red Dust City That NKP.

 

The old Blue Duce with the flashing red lights was from Clark AFB and we flew it into Korat and drove it up to NKP with all the communications equipment and established communications with Korat and Green Mountain and so-on into MACV and with split-up communications into Bangkok

The Blue-Duce had an automatic transmission and was used on the flight line at Clark AFB before NKP.

 

One day a C-130 from Japan came leafing down out of the sky and landed short and exactly in the middle of the steel plate runway and promptly overshot and went into the woods at the end of the runway turning itself into a big wood chopper. We were watching from the communications shack and saw the whole thing. Other incoming cargo had to divert to Korat AFB to land. We lost our only truck and transportation in that incident and I think they had to cut up that plane anyway. Our CO was in Korat at the time. We doubled up on shifts and sent one of our team into Korat AFB by taxi to report the incident to the CO and arrange for a new vehicle. He came back with an Green Army Duce on-loan from the US Army 29 Signal Group in Bangkok. At the time we were on direct orders to keep communications going no matter what and to be separate from the base on going build-up wherein our CO then assigned us to use to Hotels downtown NKP. Wee, Just simply fantastic, We had a great time with clean beds, showers, and nice food with no snakes or Rice bugs.

Anyway, I think he was a little pissed-off about the truck damage as He had to sign for the truck at Clark AFB.

 

Some Master-Sergeant pulled rank and had commandeered our only truck and promptly blew the transmission trying to tow that loaded C-130 out of the woods.

 

I was in the area, as in Thailand and Laos from 1963 to 1975.

Remember that 1st Mob motto (First In and Last Out).

Well, The Air Force put 1st Mob Members under Civilian Covert Cover for deployment to Laos and Thailand and they Gave people early outs and redeployment with equal rank of O3 or GS-12 as Civilian Employees attached to JUSMAG with dipolomatic visas.

Fly from DMG to NKP to Vientiane and support communications equipment.

The Pentagon just declassified this covert mission in 1985, see the Lima-85 site and all the people installing this Radar and Tacan Site.

They are all USAF 1st Mob members in civilian dress under a covert mission.

Real problem for First Mobile Combat Group members assigned to this covert mission in that the discharge papers are not available from the 1966 on.

The NRC in St Louis claims these were destroyed in the 1975 fire, funny in that this is the same year that the FOIA was enabled. Hidden? 

Remember Agent- Orange and all the required papers for admittance proof to VA hospitals or for any other purpose is hard to prove with-out papers. 

I went as civilian covert in 1965 to 1975 and I too, am just having fun finding some records of our missions.

 

NKP really bloomed from those early days of rice bugs and snakes into a real base. I hear it has now reverted back to the Rice bugs and Snakes.

 

By the way, Tony Poe not his real name has recently passed away, If you know the name, you know of the deadest

 

Vic James

 

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Hi Guys,

 

    Hope this email finds everything fine with all of you. It's been a while since I've heard from some of you and I wanted to check in and fill you in on what's has been going on with me.

 

    I recently made contact with Jim Moore (an FE that I flew with while in the 21st SOS out of NKP, Thailand, '69-70) and since then Jim and several others who were involved with Air Force helicopters and I have been shooting photo's, war stories, assignment experiences, tall tails and of course a little BS, back and forth. Our collective experiences run the gamut from H-5's, H-13's, H-19's, H-21's, H-1's, H-3's, H-43's to H-53's with a good bit of stiff wing time as well. We've been mechanics, flight mechanics, flight engineers, crew chiefs and door gunners. Right now there's about 15 of us in our little group (we just call our self's "Rotor Heads"). I've even set up a group email address in my outlook express (named 'Rotor Heads') so I won't forget anyone when I send out anything. A couple of the guys have made contact, but don't have the time to handle all the emails right now, so they don't actively participate for now, and that's fine.

 

    At this time the group includes J.D. Adams, Jerry Bucknall, Bill Crawford, Lew Taylor, Jim Henthorn, Otto Kroger, Bob Runninger, Phil Armstrong, DeWayne Huffman, Dave Blazik, Kelly Day, Will Davis and Woody Freeman, along with Jim Moore and myself.

 

    We've had a great time seeing the photo's that everyone has of their career's and families. I've been reading some great stories, seeing some great pictures and I know there are a ton more of all this out there with you guys and guys you know.

 

    Jim Moore has put together a BLOG site, "ROTORHEADS US" which is just great. Go out there and take a look at it. With this site, Jim is collecting the photo's and stories, we all have, in a central location for anyone to read and view. There's most likely (I guess that's probably a definite, rather than a most likely) going to come a time when none of us will be around any more to pass on our experiences and photo's. It would be a shame to let all of our collective experience in the service of our county, not be saved for future generations to see and read, and for us not to be able to share and enjoy with each other. Hell, we've all been a part of the history of our nation and our involvements needs to be preserved. It's not about embarrassing anyone, it's not about bragging (unless you want to brag, which is just fine), it's about sharing our experience with each other and anyone else that might be interested. Some of these experiences are serious, some are just everyday duty, some are funny things we've been involved with and some are even the dumb things we all done at one time or another. Like when I was a green A/3C at my first helicopter unit and was sent, by my boss, to the supply room to get a bucket of 'rotor wash', and being the good little (dumb) trooper I was trying to be, I went looking for it .... yah, I was the butt of a bit of leg pulling ... but it was part of my experience. Besides I got to pull some legs my self during my 20 years in the 'chopper' business, used the 'rotor wash' thing as well as the 'hovering gasket' and several others.

 

    There's nothing to join, it don't cost a thing. The more the merrier and with you guys in the group, we know you'll be able to find others you know to bring in as 'Rotor Heads' as well.

 

    Jim Moore is our point man with keeping track of all of us and he keeps a list of all our names, wife's name, address, phone numbers, etc., if you wish to share the information. Most of us have sent a bio of our lives and careers to him as well. Such things as where we grew up, what bases and units we've been assigned at, what our job titles at each unit was and what we been into since leaving the Air Force. You can reach Jim Moore by hitting the 'reply all' to this message as I've copied this to him.

 

    We invite you to join with us and participate as much as you can or like. Looking forward to hearing from all of you.

 

Later,

 

Jim Burns, SMSgt USAF (retired)
S/HH-19A/B, H-21B, HH-43B, C/HH-3C/E, V/UH-1F/P/N
ITSOTB Crew Member www.intheshadowoftheblade.com
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Member TLC Brotherhood #685
Member VNHCM Association #02153

 

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